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Saturday, March 31, 2012

PULSE ASIA, SWS SURVEYS NOT WORKING!


Don’t mind the Pulse Asia and SWS surveys on the supposed public clamor for the conviction of Chief Justice Renato Corona.

The surveys aren’t working, guys.

The surveys HAVE NOT INCREASED calls from the public, and by that I mean IDENTIFIED individuals or groups, for the ouster of Corona.

Anybody correct me if I’m wrong but except for the prosecution and Malacanang, NOBODY among neutral sectors has expressed firm faith or confidence in the accuracy of the surveys.

I haven’t heard Presidential Spokesman Edwin Lacierda’s Black and White Movement, or even leftist groups, CATEGORICALLY say that the survey results are correct and show that Corona should go.

Anybody who has can forward details to me.

Neither have there been renewed rallies or mass actions against Corona. No new advertisements or similar media pronouncements either by any group NOT IDENTIFIED with Pnoy or any of his aides.

Meanwhile, Supreme Court personnel and other employees of the Judiciary in various places continue with their vocal expression of support  for the Chief Justice.

Internet groups supportive of Corona ARE NOT LOSING MEMBERS since the surveys started coming out.

On the contrary they’re GROWING.

One group now has 12,190 members with 3,440 new recruits. Another has 300 new faces and a total of 1,552 members.

Pulse Asia and SWS are claiming that the surveys were not commissioned by anybody. But of course, WE WERE NOT BORN YESTERDAY, right guys?

This could only mean that NO ONE wanted to FRONT for the surveys should anybody ask who had commissioned it, as what Sen. Miriam Defensor Santiago had done.

Again, I’m not saying, and will never say, that Corona is innocent.

What I’m driving at is no one should allow himself or herself to be FOOLED by the surveys, which DON’T HAVE even a DROP of convincing proof of TRUTH AND ACCURACY.

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From the readers:

NOBODY WANTS TO PROBE POWER CRISIS!

DERICK GAMBOA
It’s obvious. If they initiate a probe, all facts will point towards their incompetence, ergo that means more work to cover up their calculations, or miscalculations. If it does not suit them, they keep quiet. Everyone who comes from the yellow barangay knows who butters their side of the bread.

EMMANUEL PASUIT
Takot lang malaman ang tutoo.

JUNN OFREDO
If you appoint a secretary and undersecretary of Energy from Shell and Caltex, respectively, and your uncle owns Petron, so with Your Relatives ay Meralco and PNOC, what do you expect?

CHRISTIAN LITIATCO of Manila
There's no power crisis there. That's because the power coops are opposing the privatization of their generating sets. In fairness, two senators are calling for action: Aquilino Pimentel III, a Mindanaoan, and Francis Escudero. Also two congressmen -- Vicente Belmonte and Rufus Rodriguez. We need to call for the repeal of the EPIRA law. A law of the same nature was passed in California, USA, and eventually resulted to massive power blackouts in 2000-2001.

PAM ELLAH
They want to destroy Mindanao. If you make a state or nation weak, you got to have the condition for manipulation.

RODEL; RAMIL of Kowloon City, Hong Kong
Power crisis pero may power hike? May teledrama yata.

BITUINMORY vILLANUEVA
It’s family-owned business kasi kaya deadma lang sila!

BRETZ LARKOBETZ
Kung sa umpisa pa lang ng pagpasok, may nakaharang na malaking buwaya sa sinumang magtatangka nito, sa media pa lang, tunaw na.

CONGGO VEGAZ
May kutob ako. Ngayon pa lang, naghahanap na ng bagong mapapagpiliang presidentiable ang Cojuancgo-Lopez clans. Alam kasi nila na, dahil ngayon lang nila nalamang POOR pala itong si Abnoy mag-execute in terms of handling management. Masyado kasing exposed at kitang kita, pinipersonal nya ang mga bagay na ginawa nya sa mga kalaban. Isa na dyan ang Hacienda Luisita. Hindi alam ni Aboy na sa ginawa nya, nadamay ang mga KKK niya. 30

Friday, March 30, 2012

NOBODY WANTS TO PROBE POWER CRISIS!


I can’t help wondering why NO INVESTIGATION is being conducted on why has the power crisis worsened, especially in Mindanao.

Take note, guys, nobody is even pushing to have one.

Unlike in the case of political enemies of Pnoy wherein practically everybody is issuing his and her own call for a probe, and judgment of the issue at hand even if an investigation or trial is still in progress.

I fully agree that problems had been hounding the power sector before Pnoy became president.

But the FACT REMAINS that those problems WOULD NOT HAVE WORSENED if these had been attended to immediately, and effectively.

When something deteriorates, somebody must be held ACCOUNTABLE. But clearly, Pnoy and his allies in the Senate and the House of Representatives would not want this to happen.

Malacanang immediately cleared Energy Sec. Rene Almendras of any liability and declared he’ll stay despite calls for his resignation.


So the first question is what has been done by the Aquino Administration in the almost two years that it has been in power?

Who did what, when and for whom?

In a press statement in the Philippine Star, Presidential Spokesman Edwin Lacierda said new power plants were constructed in 2011. But he DID NOT SPECIFY the total capacity, where, how many, for whom and who was/were the contractor (s).

Lacierda said the Agus 6 hydroelectric power complex in Mindanao is being rehabilitated, something which SHOUD HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE.

But he didn’t explain WHY NOT in the almost two years of the Pnoy presidency.
Lacierda said the Agus 6 rehabilitation is just part of the long-term SOLUTIONS to the power crisis in Mindanao

But he did not specify what these other solutions are.

Bottom line: Mindanao residents are poised to suffer HIGHER ELECTRICITY 
RATES.

In fairness to them, they must know WHO’S TO BLAME for this added hardship. They must also have DETAILED ASSURANCE that the increase will be utilized correctly, and not just end up in THE POCKETS of certain individuals.
                                          
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PART 2: SWS SURVEY MALICIOUS, ONE-SIDED!

PEANOY’S BEARD
It’s malicious, erroneous and noynoyous.

CASIANO MAYOR
Is he fit to stay as SC chief justice? Kawalanghiyaan na lang kung manatili pa siya sa post. Analyzing the issues that cropped up, he seems not interested in law but in acquiring properties. Pagpapayaman ang nasa utak ng tao.

ROMEO UY of North Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
It’s just like being a cashier and at the same time auditor!

TEMOTIO YAP OF Bacuag, Surigao del Norte
Multi-media can be the worst, dangerous social educator for misguided Filipino citizens.

TERESITA WOODARD
Korek ka diyan without thinking. Wala naman sila ginawa na hindi malicious, almost all with malice.

JILLJACK CAMACHO
As well as False Asia!

BETH FERNANDEZ
Who is one-sided, the one making the survey or the reader? 30


Thursday, March 29, 2012

PART 2: SWS SURVEY MALICIOUS, ONE-SIDED!


A personal friend of mine told me there’s no way Pnoy or the prosecution panel in the impeachment trial had anything to do with the Social Weather Stations (SWS) survey saying 73 percent of the people want Chief Justice Renato Corona convicted. 

To avoid a debate, since we’ve been friends from way back, I immediately replied:

Then, the SWS had better reveal who commissioned the survey. Pnoy and the prosecution panel are the ones with the biggest motive to oust Corona.

Reveal as in show the contract for the survey to media.

It’s public knowledge that SWS is one of the MOST EXPENSIVE survey firms in the country. Only the likes of Pnoy and the prosecution panel, who have millions at their disposal, can afford to spend for non-essential undertakings like surveys.

If it turns out that the SWS client is not Pnoy or the prosecution, then his or her possible links to the President or the prosecution can be determined.

I emphasized to my friend that the SWS had better not have the stomach to claim that the survey was for free and of their OWN volition.  The people are NOT THAT STUPID.

Whether or not anybody admits it, the survey wanted to PREJUDGE the case in favor of the prosecution.

The thrust of the survey was does the people think Corona was guilty, based ONLY ON THE PROSECUTION’S EVIDENCE since it’s the only one who has finished with its presentation of the case.

The timing of the survey and the release of the results should also be explained by the SWS.

As I had pointed out in our preceding blog, the survey was conducted from March 10 to 13, RIGHT AFTER the prosecution had rested its case and the defense was just starting to present witnesses and proof.

That means it’s a ONE-SIDED SURVEY. If SWS is for fair play, it should have conducted the survey AFTER the defense has presented its case.

When both sides shall have presented their case and respondents would have been in a BETTER POSITION to make a more RATIONAL REPLY to the survey questions.

Only after that should the survey results be released.

But since the poll was conducted when the defense had BARELY BEGUN to present its case, the OBVIOUS, VULGAR intent was to BRAINWASH the people in favor of the prosecution.

The survey CLEARLY wanted to BLOCK whatever significance the evidence of the defense may have from the PUBLIC MIND.

I assured my friend that I would welcome any clarification from him. That goes for everybody. Just be sure it’s DETAILED and not just a generic or self-serving statement.

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From the readers:

SWS SURVEY MALICIOUS, ONE-SIDED

RON SERAPIO
For me, it’s a fixed survey. Any man of reason can't appreciate the evidences presented by the prosecution. The withdrawal of five  articles of impeachment is a big blow. It's unbelievable 70 percent is (still) for a guilty verdict against the CJ.  

SAMUEL ROLDAN of Olongapo City
Survey dito, survey doon. Kung snap eIection na Iang nang magkaaIaman na. Mas okey pa, di ba!

LOLITA BELEN of Cabuyao, Laguna
They 'll never make it! The truth will always prevail!

JAMES YAP
Panalo sila sa survey, pero sa mga ebidensya na nailatag ng defense, hindi sila mananalo!

LARD SOLOSA
It has been that way. Their surveys depend on the highest bidder.

BOBBY AGUSTIN of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
During the elections, Penoy’s camp continuously released SWS  surveys to condition the mind of the people that he is winning. Now, they are using the same formula to oust CJ.

LETTY RODIL 
Sino ba naman ang maniniwala diyan sa saksakan ng Sinungaling Weder Station? Kung baga sa pagkain, PANIS NA PANIS na.dahil alam na alam na ng mga tao. Style n’yo bulok!

RICKY MATIAS of Omaha, Nebraska, USA
I never read or listen to surveys. Baliw lang kasi pumapatol dito.

ROD CASTILLO of Mandaluyong
Trash lang ang mga surveys na iyan!

VIRGILIO HERNANDEZ
Mind conditioning...from the Aquino clan!

NOYNOYING AQUINO
Mga baliw ang mga pasimuno ng surveys!

PRODUCE PROOF, RAISSA ROBLES, OR SHUT UP!

CRISTY MARIE REYES of Iloilo City
Good job, Boyet! I agree that she should better shut her mouth  na lang. Kasi, yung mga pinagsusulat niya ay puro lang naman gossip. Wala naman siyang proof. Well,a paid journalist(?) will write anything malicious just to demonize a person.

ALDEN ALMERO of New York, New York, USA
Crowd-sourcing journalism? Defense is right, bring it on to the impeachment court by amending the articles of impeachment.

PRIMO CRISOSTOMO of Farmville, Virginia, USA
What do you expect from a rumormonger like Raissa Robles? She will NEVER shut up because she's on Malacanang's PAYROLL.

PROSECUTORS SHOULD ACCOUNT FOR P3.7M BUDGET

TIBONG CAGAYANO of Lal-Lo, Cagayan
 P3.5 MILLION for less than a month of impeachment trial? Ang sasarap siguro ng kinakain at iniinom ng mga congressmen-prosecutors habang nasa loob ng airconditioned rooms at pinag-iisipan kung ano pa ang puwede nilang ipalathala sa media para ikundisyon at impluwensiyahan ang isipan ng mga ordinaryong mamamayan laban sa Punong Mahistrado.

EVAN MANALANG of Tondo, Manila
I agree.  30

SWS SURVEY MALICIOUS, ONE-SIDED!


The Social Weather Stations (SWS) survey showing that 73 percent of respondents prefer a guilty verdict in the impeachment trial of Chief Justice Renato Corona proves that the firm is a member of the CIRTY TRICKS brigade of his detractors.

Think about these, guys:

The survey was conducted from March 10 to 13, RIGHT AFTER the prosecution had rested its case and the defense was just starting to present witnesses and proof.

That means it’s a ONE-SIDED SURVEY. If SWS is for fair play, it should have conducted the survey AFTER the defense has presented its case.

When both sides shall have presented their case and respondents would have been in a BETTER POSITION to make a more RATIONAL REPLY to the survey questions.

Only then should the survey results be released, if the survey was indeed an impartial and honest poll.

But since the poll was conducted when the defense had BARELY BEGUN to present its case, the OBVIOUS and ONLY VULGAR intent was to BRAINWASH the people in favor of the prosecution, the only one who had been heard as of that time.

SWS, or whoever paid it to conduct the survey, CLEARLY wanted to BLOCK whatever evidence, and its significance, the defense would show from the PUBLIC MIND.

GUSTO TAYONG GAWING BOBO, TANGA AT UTU-UTO NG SWS. They want us to HEAR AND BELIEVE ONLY in the prosecution.

Otherwise, SWS would have given us a choice.

GANIYANG KAGRABE NA ANG KAWALANGHIYAANG NANGYAYARI PARA MALOKO TAYO AT SUMANGAYON NGAYON PA LANG NA GUILTY NGA SI CORONA.

Even if the defense is juststarting to present witnesses and evidence.
And take note, people, the SWS survey was released AFTER PULSE ASIA kept quiet following heavy public criticism for releasing similar pro-prosecution polls.

To those who are PREJUDGING the case this early with VICiOUS BIAS: These are the kind people you’re supporting.  

You’re having a NIGHTMARE if you think they’ll be as kid as they should if ever they achieve their goal of having Corona convicted.

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Froim the readers:

PROSECUTORS SHOULD ACCOUNT FOR P3.5M BUDGET!

JAMES YAP
Singilin natin ang prostitution team pati ang MalacaƱang! Pati pera ng pro-CJ Corona ginagamit.

TORO HYDEN
They use taxpayers' money to protect their Hacienda Luisita.

LETTY ARCILLA
Baka ibubulsa na lang ng prosecution panel, dahil alam na alam naman nilang walang mangyayari sa  kanilang pagsampa ng kaso kay CJ Corona.  Kaya pala tuwing may trial, mga haping hapi ang mga tinamaan ng kulog na prosecutors!

LARD SOLOSA
Balot para sa bahay ar aso, included!

CYNTHIA BUGSEY
Boyet, I think we should join forces.

JOYFULFRENCH JAVIER
Mapagsamantalang congressmen-prosecutors ang mga hunghang na iyan – Tupas, Quimbo, Angara , Tanada, Colmenares, Farinas, Abagao and the rest. Nagpasasa sap era ng taongbayan.  

ARIEL PACIBE
Kailangan i-viral yan para malaman ng madlang pipol na sila ang nagbabayad sa mga porksecutors at ang defense team ay puro volunteers dahil naniniwala sila sa tama.

TERESITA WOODARD
 Makikita natin pagbaligtad ng sitwasyon. Now they are prosecutors, next time they will be prosecuted.

GLENDA DGZMN
The prosecution always mentions "accountability". Now, they need to account to the taxpayers where the budget went and how it was spent.

SINGKONG LUGAW
! knew it right from the start… Almighty One, please help us kick these corrupt people out from the system of our country.....sarap sipain talaga, lalo na si Tupas.

HYDI DELA CRUZ
Sayang lang pera ng bayan!

BRETZ LARKOBETZ
Kaya kahit bugbog sila sa Senado, trying hard pa rin sila. Ang pera kasi ginasto nila, pera ng taongbayan

EMMANUEL PASUIT
Akala nila, magreresign si CJ kagaya ni Merci..wow mali ang mga bobo!

ALON VALDEZ
think the prosecution mentioned in the Senate that they have P10 million allocated for this impeachment process.

RONALD TUASON
Patay sila!

BEN GATES of Cairo , Egypt
Shame on these people...P3.5 million gastos so far. Ano ba ang nangyari sa ginastusan nila?

JUSTIN PORTILLO
Singilin yang mga congresista na yan! Dapat galing sa kanilang bulsa ang ginagastos nila. Take note, hindi ang taongbayan ang pumirma sa impeachment complaint, yung 180+ lang ang pumirma at may napilitan pa!

SEVERINO NICOLAS
Don't forget expenses paid for the services of the "short lady" of Umali, the "delivery boy" of Banal, the lying Raissa Robles.

EVELYN CARILLO of Quezon City
Iyung 50 prosecutors nila charged their gasoline expenses sa budget? Kaya naubos. Akala ko ba, pro bono? Liars.

RAFFY Advincula
A small amount sacrificed to obtain the truth 30

Wednesday, March 28, 2012

PROSECUTORS SHOULD ACCOUNT FOR P3.5M BUDGET!


The prosecution panel should make a PUBLIC ACCOUNTING of the P3.5 million it has spent since the impeachment trial of Chief Justice Renato Corona started last Jan. 16.

Public because it’s OUR TAXES, GUYS! Let n one ever forget that.

From Jan. 16 until the trial went on a break last March 15 (if I remember correctly), approximately 60 days had passed. That includes Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays when there are no hearings.

If you divide P3.5 million by 60 days, that’s approximately P58,000 plus DAILY since the trial began.

Now, the prosecution has been saying right from the start that the 50 prosecutors from the private sector which they had tapped are helping them FREE of charge. 

Anybody correct me if I’m wrong but I also don’t recall the prosecution having ever declared that they had rented, bought, built or spent on something special which they need for the trial.

The impeachment trial is being held in the Senate, so it’s the Senate who’s paying for the electricity and other related expenses, not the prosecution.

I and my officemates religiously watch the live TV coverage of the trial and as far as I can recall, NEVER had the 50 private prosecutors joined their congressmen-prosecutors ALL AT THE SAME TIME!

But Noel said the private prosecutors’ fuel expenses were reimbursed

So WHERE DID THE P3.5 million go? Or to whom, when and what for? Who authorized the expenses?

House Accounts Committee Chair Rep. Florencio Noel said in a press statement that expenses for supplies accounted for P1.9 million, while food expenses ate up P1.565 million.

But Noel DID NOT ITEMIZE the expenses. Let’s do some simple mathematics, people.

If you divide the P1.565 million spent on food by 60 days, that would be approximately P25,000 daily seven days a week. I repeat, people, P25,000 daily on food alone even if there are NO HEARINGS on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays.

The P1.9 million for supplies translates to P30,000 plus a day if  divided by 60. What makes these supplies SO EXPENSIVE, and FOR WHAT were these used, or are being used?

And the fuel reimbursements for the private prosecutors, how much?

I repeat, guys, the P3.5 million came from our HARD-EARNED TAXES. We have all the right to know how has it been spent. 30

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From the readers:

PRODUCE PROOF, RAISSA ROBLES, OR SHUT UP!

CHICKOI CRUZ 
Painumin kaya ng herbal na makahiya. Gamot yon sa mga makakapal ang mukha.

DON LEDRES JR
Hayaan n’yo na muna siya maglabas ng kung ano-ano, Alam naman natin lahat bakit ginagawa niya mga yan. Once acquitted na ang CJ, lulunukin niyang lahat pinagsasabi niya, Katakot takot na asunto pa ang aabutin nyan. Magkaka-kanser din ang gagang yan sa uterus, cervix or breast, hintayin n’yo lang. Mas OK kung sa cervix magkaroon,... matagal niyang pagtitiiisan at napakabaho pa na kahit 10 metro na ang layo amoy isdang nabubulok siya. Asahan n’yo iyan.

DONN IDOS of Paranaque City
Walang proof iyan. Hearsay, meron.

RON RONQUILLO of  Manila
Yeah. None of that confidential sources bullshit!

ENNA VERGA
Hoping for the defense team to have a subpoena issued to this idiot and let her testify under oath! SINUNGALING to the max.

RAFFY ADVINCULA
I think dyan na mabubuking si Raissa pagdating sa production of proof. I have a strong feeling na wala syang maibibigay na concrete, fool-proof, reliable and authentic evidence. It's just an allegation coming from someone who is burning fire for Corona. Eventually, the fire will die, this accusation fades and the blog of Raissa will simply be a dot in history.

RONALD TUASON
She can only produce lies. Hindi titigil yan, kasi bayaran, The best thing na dapat gawin nya pag sablay ang kuwento niya, magsuicide na lang sya.

RAIZZA WYNNE
Shut up, Raissa Robles. Talk to the marines.

LARD SOLOSA
Now we know why nedia people want to decriminalize libel and the enactment of Freedom of Information bill -- These moves will lead to destruction of whom the GODS OF MEDIA WISH TO DESTROY! 30

Tuesday, March 27, 2012

PRODUCE PROOF, RAISSA ROBLES, OR SHUT UP!

To Raissa Robles: Produce the evidence or shut up!

And if you’ll fail to prove your MALICIOUS INSINUATIONS on the possible link between the dollar deposits of Chief Justice Renato Corona and the California home of his daughter Charina, APOLOGIZE to the family.

That is if you’re CIVIL, PROFESSIONAL and GOOD-MANNERED.

If you’ll insist on your obvious MIND-CONDITIONING efforts to demonize the Chief Justice, Ms. Robles, produce documentary proof FIRST that a licensed physical therapist with two jobs in the US like Charina IS NOT EARNING ENOUGH to buy properties.

You BOAST of crowd sourcing in getting your information so ask your ‘crowd sources’ to get copies of Charina’s payslips if they’re really that good.

You keep on tackling what you insinuate to be US properties of Corona but you continue to FAIL TO CITE, either out of SHEER INCOMPETENCE or MALICE, sample figures of how much a licensed physical therapist like Charina can earn in the US.

You and your allies/followers, Ms. Robles, will find two of those sample figures, one each from California and Washington, in the comments accompanying this bog.

And in my preceding blog, you will find a comment from one of my readers from New York on the financial capability of a licensed physical therapist in the US.

I have also been informed that prosecution panel spokesman Marikina Rep. Miro Quimbo has declared in a TV news comment that they did not find any US property registered in the name of Corona.

So if you’ll continue with your malicious insinuations, Ms. Robles, CATEGORICALLY DECLARE FIRST that Quimbo is a LIAR or the prosecutors are MISERABLY INCOMPETENT investigators.

Now, if you’ll ignore all these but will still malign the reputation of Corona, then accept the challenge of his lawyers and take the witness stand at the impeachment trial.

Volunteer if you have to. So that whatever you’ll say will be under oath and will be ground for penalties if you’ll LIE.

Kung ayaw mo pa rin, Ms. Robles, magkaroon ka naman ng KAHIHIYAN na tumahimik na. Iyon ay KUNG MAY KAHIHIYAN KA PA.

To the blind followers of Robles, and for that matter the yellow media, I sincerely hope you are all aware, and correctly understand, the meaning of the following: 

The burden of proof is always on the ACCUSER, not the ACCUSED. 
FAIR PLAY is listening to BOTH SIDES of an issue.
Only the WORD OF GOD is Gospel-truth and needs no supporting proof!

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From the readers:

CHARINA’S PURCHASING POWER STANDS!

TOMMY BLUE of Seattle, Washington, USA
A licensed physical therapist in America is one of the highest paid medical workers in the country. They start at $150,000 a year, or $50/hour, and that is just a starting salary. Kung maliitin nila ang pagkatao ng mga Corona. akala mo ang gaganda ng pinagkukunan nila ng pera.

GEMMIELY ONG of Stockton, California, USA
Dito, puwede kang bumili ng property alone. Saka kung two years ka ng resident, kahit zero down, puwede. Tutoo na ang PT dito, malakas ang kita lalo’t may mga pasyente ka na ikaw ang pupunta sa bahay. Kasi, bro ko ganun. Bukod sa hospital, may mga pasyente pa siya  na  one-on-one. Kaya yang R R  na dilat na iyan, liar iyan.

BIEN BALAJADIA of Marikina City
Well, the mere fact she writes about "unsubstantiated information" makes her a mere gossip monger, not a journalist. Her writings deserve as much attention as any crap in the toilet bowl before flushing.

CYNTHIA BUGSEY
Parang fishmonger na namulot lang ng balita sa nagtitida ng isda.

DAN TAMARGO of Stockton, California, USA
Buying a piece of property in the U S without the spouse on the contract is a normal practice in the US for various reasons other than tax purposes. Medical professionals earn a considerable amount.  Charina is a licensed PT and that profession can make as much as $80,000/year. Holding two jobs, she can make as much as double that amount. With a good source of income/stable job and good credit history, you can always buy any property as you like. The only untouchable job in America is in the medical field.

LEMUEL SANCHEZ
Gagawin ba naman yung mga manonood na bobo? Anong akala nila sa Physical Therapist sa US, MABABA ANG SAHOD? Kakatawa naman si Raissa Robles. 30